Below is the transcription for this episode: Use Pinterest In Your Affiliate Marketing Business. This is a live interview with David Sharpe, CEO of Legendary Marketer. Today he dives into how to use Pinterest for your marketing business With his guest, Ebony. 

David Sharpe, CEO Legendary Marketer: Hello my friends good morning and welcome to Wake Up Legendary and this morning, my name is David Sharpe, and today we have Ebony on the show. I am looking forward to hearing what in God's name she has done on Pinterest to be getting a million plus views and eyeballs on her content. Do you know my friends in the real world and how much it would cost to get a million eyeballs on a TV commercial or a million eardrums on a radio commercial? And I wonder how much she paid in advertising costs and fees to be able to get a million views on Pinterest.

Mike's team's suspicion is she paid with something other than money she paid with something other than money she paid with time and paid with a you know an investment of time and energy and likely money into her skills to be able to learn what she's done. And so let's learn from her. Well, Ebony, welcome to the show.

Ebony: Hello, hello. Thank you, glad to be here.

David: Yeah, nice. Perfect the headphones for when we were having an audio issue before and she got it sorted out with the old school Apple headphones. So it's always good to still have those on site. I think I've gotten rid of most of mine just because you know, they always change up the whole on you down there on the bottom so I don't even have you remember when you lose that 15 pairs of those that just had the single plug and you just plug it into any phone? Yeah. And they sweep it all up on us and now you mean they're they're smart, though, are they? Because we paid.

Ebony: They know what they're doing.

David:  Yeah. So tell us about you. And you know, what is your legendary story? How did you find us? What's happened since then? What were you looking for? Uh, tell us tell us a little bit about this and this is your first time on the show right? Or Second?

Ebony: Second time.

David: Okay. Did we talk

Ebony: We did.

David: Dude, how long ago was this?

Ebony: Oh, it was back in April. Okay. Wow.

David: It was back in April of this year?

Ebony: Yep. 

David: Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. I know. You'll have to forgive me because you know that wasn't in my notes. And, you know, there are so many people here in this community. It's overwhelming for me sometimes to remember everybody that we've interviewed and talk to so hold on a second. Let me just start this whole thing over. Welcome back Ebony to the show. Returning guests Holy crap, like, you know, for those of us who don't, who have met someone who have memory loss like me, let us know who Ebony is from the time that we interviewed you the first time and then we'll talk about what you've done since then.

Ebony: Got it. Okay. So I was on the show back in April and my business with legendary started to take off. And that was actually around the time where I was I started going all in with Pinterest. You mentioned Pinterest. And so what I would do is just do my content on TikTok. Then I will use those videos and repurpose them on Pinterest, Instagram, Facebook reels. But Pinterest was the one that took off the most buzz outside of TikTok. So that is what I'm continuing to do now is continue to just go all in on tick tock and Pinterest the other two platforms as well but a lot of the focus is on Pinterest.

David: I got to Yeah, and you know, there've been several good conversations that I've had with, you know, Legendary Marketers in this community about Pinterest, but it's not a platform that's as popular as TikTok and as popular as Instagram. Why do you think that is? 

Ebony: I think people don't realize that it's not a social media platform. It's actually a search engine. And so I think that the idea of that fact that it is a little different the way that it's made, it seems to kind of get put on the back burner because you're not really interacting as much as you would on a social media platform like TikTok  or Instagram or Facebook, or Twitter. And so I think that because of that and then there may be some apprehension because we may not know how to use it as a search engine instead of a social media platform, which is what we're used to. We're used to everything being a social media platform, and not necessarily a search engine. But when you change your viewpoint on Pinterest and start using it and posting your content in a searchable way, that is what changes the game on Pinterest.

David: What does that mean? What does that mean though?

Ebony: That means when you post your videos when you Yeah, when you post videos that you're going to repurpose or you know fresh videos you want to whenever you're putting in your title, you want to have keywords in that title. So you're gonna want to do some kind of keyword research for your niche. If you're in the fitness niche. You want to find keywords that people are actively searching for when it comes to fitness, home workouts, dumbbell dumbbells at home, you know, whatever it is you want to find keywords that people aren't actively searching for. You want to include those words in your words whenever you're making your posts.

David: Yeah, and I lost. I lost me there on all she can still hear me but she looks like her internet here is having some connection issues. Ebony if you can hear me would you log off and come back on. Try to There you are. Would you log off and come back on because there's also a delay in your internet connection? I just wonder if you could try to like it. I don't know if there's an internet issue and I wonder if you could kind of log off and come back on and see if that helps it. 

Yeah, there's like a little delay which like when you're live with somebody and there's a delay, it makes it really hard to talk to, you know, you're saying stuff in there like, they're like getting it like five to 10 seconds later and it's it makes conversations awkward as hell when you're trying to have them on the internet, you know, so let's wait for her to come back on. Let me see what I can give you all while we're waiting. So here's her TikTok and Instagram ebony brown hustle. So we can at least go check her out. Let me see what else we've got. When I don't have her Pinterest and I don't know if she's going to share that or not. But at least you have a couple of other ways to connect with it.

Pinterest is a big deal and it's been a huge silent, you know, just behemoth for a handful of people. We do have I believe. I want to just go in here and I want to just double check. Login into my back office going into the business blueprints for those of you who own the business blueprints. There is a Pinterest set where we break down an entire Pinterest funnel including the history and how to use Pinterest. How to create your Pinterest profile posting on Pinterest like a pro getting endless free traffic from Pinterest. And ebony is back yet getting endless free traffic. Let me actually just go right in here. I want to share my screen and show you what we have just in case some of you are like hey, you know how can I learn how to get on Pinterest today? Well, what you can do is if you have the business blueprints you can go into the affiliate marketing business blueprint. You can scroll down here to the Pinterest funding and this is the section that I'm talking about.

Okay, we not only have and we have this by the way, with the Instagram funnel, the YouTube funnel, TikTok funnel, we have all of this stuff, including case studies and breakdowns of exactly how people are using it. So for example, we've got a hairdresser who shares her Pinterest blog and tiktok secrets repurposing content using Pinterest 1 million views on Pinterest, here's so make sure that you go back in there. If you own the blueprints please check that out. Okay. And Ebony is back. Welcome back to the show. How are you doing?

Ebony: I'm back. How do I sound? Is it clear?

David: You're good. We still got a little delay but it's fine. We're gonna work through it. So I believe that I believe that we left off talking about Pinterest being a search engine. And that's why it's so powerful and that's why you think that people overlook it. Then you talked about actually targeting specific keywords or searchable phrases that people might be searching for and you gave an example in the fitness niche. What, what sort of, or how can I ask this question How can somebody start using Pinterest and integrate it without doing too much extra work? If they're already marketing on say TikTok or Instagram.

David: How long have you been actively marketing? Was this also the first online venture that you ever did?

Ebony: I came on in January. I had seen it for a couple of months. And I said I don't know if I want to do this again. I had done fairly hearing back in maybe 2017 somewhere like that 2016 2017 And I didn't have very good training back then. And so I just kind of winged it . I was winging it the whole way through. It's kind of self taught having to teach myself everything. And so when I came across this back in December, I wondered, you know, am I gonna have to wing this again? I say well, you know what, I'm going forward. I will go for it. And I'll just wing it. I can link it. But then I realized that there was actual step by step training that taught me exactly what to do, how to do what to click, and what to do. And I said, Oh, this is it. This is the one and so in January I went all in and out of the gate, came out the gate hot and I've been going ever since then.

David: And what does that mean? So people understand what you mean when you come out the gate hot. Tell me out because that probably means you took a crapload of action. But tell me what happened here or in here. That changed. 

Ebony: Yes, I did. I took massive action. So I took the training that took the 15 day challenge, but I finished it in about a week or so. Of course you know everybody's different when it comes to learning but I was kind of insatiable. I wanted to learn the information as quickly as I could and start applying it as quickly as I could. And so that is what I did. I finished up the training and then I started putting the funnels together the emails together I got all of my ducks in a row. As soon as I could. I worked on it every day. Every spare second I had I worked on it. Well, then I did that. I will put out content every single day. I did not miss a day that first month in January or from January to February. I put out content and I still do this to this day, but I put out content every single day. I had no followers. I had a brand new TikTok account. I had a brand new Instagram account. I had a brand new Pinterest account.

David: So what do you think? Maybe you want to have a head start, usually zero. Is that what you're trying to say? 

Ebony: Oh, and I remember thinking I'm starting from zero. Nobody's ever gonna find me. How's anybody ever got to find little evidence? I love that.

David: Honest fear, right? It's like I am on an island in the middle of the ocean 

Ebony: I don't know how anybody's ever gonna find me. I look ridiculous. I'm making tic tock videos but you know what? I got the training. I know that I have seen this work for people. I've seen people change their entire life with Legendary. I said well, I want to be legendary too. So I'm just gonna, that's what I mean with massive action. I started all brand new accounts. I started posting every single day on those accounts. I used my training that I got from legendary, and I applied it to every single social media platform and just kept going every single day consistently. Some a lot of days. I had no comments. I barely had any views on my videos. But then I will get one comment. Or I will get a little more views. We'll get a little bit more traffic. 

Ebony:  I just wanted to drop this link. I know he talked to you for about 10 years but didn't want to know I didn't launch it. As always if you want to show some support. No, no cold messaging, cold calling, bothering friends, blah, blah, blah. Some of them don't even know I was doing this at all. So if they just happen to come across, it's because they just came across it. I never even told them what happened in any of the links. Has that happened? Yes, yes. I've had family and friends start texting me and say Hey, what's this thing you're doing now? I've been seeing you on my thing. I've been seeing you on my Pinterest. I've been seeing you on TikTok. I've been seeing you're never articulate. It's like saying and I've been sitting over here. Right? What's his thing? What's he like? What are you talking about?

Ebony: So that's what started to happen. I said okay, this is actually working. This is really working. What I've been doing, even though I was getting very little results in the beginning, I did not stop. I did not stop that. Then I saw the first commission coming if at all possible. I knew it. I knew it. So that just gave me the motivation to just keep going because if somebody else is out here doing this, I can do it. So you have to trust the process. Just trust the process.

Keep being consistent every single day. Last time I was here with you guys on Legendary. I mentioned. Go for it. Show up for yourself every single day. Because you're worth it. This is your life. This is your livelihood. Show up for yourself every single day. That's what I did. And I'm trying to keep that mentality. Yeah, get tired Yeah, might not feel like making a video but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. To this, do you think?

David: Especially since you have training and you talked about that and really, if you want it bad enough you can figure out how to do something really anything in life. I mean, I think we have great training. I think we have the best training, but I mean, God, you know, I'm not saying that it's the only training out there. Yeah, and I say this to people just kind of like we'd be like Rolex saying we're the only watch company. It's like no, we're not the only, we're just the best, you know. And I wonder, since you let's take training out of the like, do you think that it's more the attitude and consistency of somebody or do you think there really is some secret that changed everything for you?

Ebony: Consistency, consistency, and a little bit of tenacity. If you apply that to yourself, you're gonna have a breakthrough. Of course the training helps because you know, you have that knowledge. But aside from that, you can have a lot of knowledge in the world but if you don't actually apply, actually take action on what you know. It's just knowledge in your brain and nobody knows you have it. You act like you don't have it. So if you go consistent There you go.

Take the knowledge, take the knowledge and apply it, then be consistent with it. I think one of the biggest problems that we don't have is consistency, especially when we don't see the results we want to see or we think we are supposed to and I tell you something crazy. Yeah, absolutely. Just you are going to. I hope you're sitting down for this. I have. I have seen multiple people over the last several years, in so many over my career, who, for example, will build up a YouTube channel or something and make a million dollars and then just stop and then just stop. Just stop posting. Just stop doing what they were doing.

That was bringing in all the money and all the traffic in delivering the value to people because the people, people are getting some value from your video, if they're watching it. Now, you may be asking yourself, well, I'm over here, going deep on my TikTok and this person over here is a real idiot and they're getting all these views. Well people are getting more value out of that for some reason you got to understand humans. Humans go deep all the time. Maybe they just want simple things, maybe they just want to be entertained a little bit. Maybe they just want to look at it for two months and right that's what they people don't always want to be backed into a corner. Hustle, hustle, hustle. You know people want to chill. Mostly they go on social media to be entertained. But I My point here is about that crazy thing I'm telling you and that crazy thing is that you mentioned consistency. Well consistency can even be difficult. When you're succeeding is what my point is.

To be able to keep something up and sustain it for years on end is the hardest thing in the world to do and it's one of the reasons why those who do sustain things for years on end usually build wealth, and those who not usually build up a little bit and then lose it all because they couldn't sustain the consistent daily habits that they needed to do to be able to keep that up. Let me give you an example. Shutting down a YouTube channel that for three years I've built up or whatever that's made me you know, hundreds of 1000s or millions of dollars and I've been posting that to that would be like having a thriving. What's your favorite come on beyond like, is it Chick fil A or do you do like a whopper when you really want to be? Do you like to go to Taco Bell? 

David: It's hard to say when you're getting results from them, you know what I mean? And that's the phenomenon that if you can, if you can know that going in that one and I'm talking to everybody because everybody's clearly cracked the code. And it's not a secret. It's just that it's doing what is working consistently over scaling and everybody loves to talk about scale. But what they should be talking about is what is sustainable, and what can I sustain because 99% of people have no business worrying about scaling or self questioning we need to be asking ourselves and this is the question. You've prompted all this in me this morning and I just love it. What can I sustain? Yes, you agree with that? And what would you add about sustaining versus worried about scaling?

Ebony: Yes, I absolutely agree with that. Because of scaling. Not everybody's gonna be able to actually do that and be sustainable like what you were saying because when you scale things explode in a it gets bigger and they make it bigger than you and what you can handle. But I can't sustain this. Did you write down a plan? Okay, everything's okay. If you can't do all the social media platforms, you feel like they're going to overwhelm you, then don't, but at least stick to one and be consistent every single day on that one. Master that one, if that's what you have to do, be consistent. And if you can do that, you will create momentum.

Yeah, we'll create momentum, and we didn't start creating that momentum. You start making a living, you start, you know, stuff starts coming in. That is not when you stop that you're like, Oh, I did it. I got it. Now. Done. You keep that momentum going. You rolling the ball down the street was gonna stop at some point unless you keep pushing it. Keep pushing, keep going to be consistent and the part that you've built in the beginning from being consistent, will continue to grow. It will continue to go because if I had stopped and given up in the beginning when I was barely getting views, I would rarely get any comments without making any. I wouldn't be on this show right now. Right? But I can't go and I go. Oh, shit.

David: So I learned everything that you just said to such a degree that I want to get refocused and try to try to recap what you just said. Because a lot of people I think have envisioned success in this industry in this business as an entrepreneur. That I'm gonna do whatever I got to do scram, I mean, just do it for me. Whatever until I get it to just in and then I'm gonna have I'm gonna be able to stop right and then just enjoy life. And it's like, that it is probably not a fun life. It's you that's not very fulfilling if you really think about it, that's probably not going to fulfill you if you do whatever, to get something to a place that it's making some money and then you just walk away. I mean, it's just what in life works like that. So not only is it probably not going to feel it, there's nothing in life that's like that. And what really, what's a beautiful fulfilling experience with both a business and a relationship is doing what every business or relationship requires at the beginning, which we're doing in that investment of time. And that I mean, come on, man, you ain't gonna find a wonderful spouse by just wham bam Thank you ma'am. And then once we get married and it's all over now, baby, that's when the work begins.

Ebony: That's when the work starts

David:  What I think a beautiful shift in perspective is, is something that I heard from Brian Brewer, which is that that first 30 days is like that valley of despair. It's like you're going to feel and think and come up against all of your limits and all of the old bugaboos and things that you say to yourself when times get and you want to give up or whatever you just taught you just tell yourself that you can't succeed or you're not good enough or whatever. All that old limiting leasing soundtrack starts to play. And what I hear you saying is that you also had that and kept going, and that was your first hurdle. And then the second hurdle has been being consistent. That's been the thing that you've so simplified and clarified what I've heard from you about, kind of the foundational pieces.

Now, if you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about what are some of the things that you've learned about kind of creating content that has helped because I've seen people mentally and in this happens to all of us don't worry, it's just some of us are are courageous enough to actually post and ask for help. You know, a woman in our community said that having posted a lot of videos haven't got a lot of traction yet, like basically haven't generated a lead. And, and, and I it's hard when someone's feeling kind of beat up like it's hard to. You don't want to put them down. You want to make them feel but you also want to let them know that it's not them. It's you. You know. So there are things that you can and the beautiful thing is it's you you can change it you can impact image not personal, and so are the things that you did that made a change that maybe at the beginning you were thinking it's me, or or it's or it's something that's out of my control, and then you and then you realize, wait… This actually is in my control, and I can change me, I can change what I'm doing. It doesn't hurt to do that to just give people more of what they want. I just have to figure out what they want. So what has that process been like for you? And do you have an exam?

Ebony: Yes. So in the beginning, I did a lot of trends, things I would see people with a million views and then just one thing, but I would do that one thing and then it would be crickets. I get 200 views and I'm sitting here like David exactly like they do and what did I do? Wrong? I was not providing value in wood on my knees. I'm in the world from home but the niche I value in that video Yeah, did the trend blah blah, blah. Hello. It's hilarious. You know, maybe but I did not provide anything that was worthwhile in that video. I did that for probably two, three weeks a month and I'm thinking that I'm doing something.

I'm doing something wrong here. So I researched TikTok itself. I researched what other creators were doing in my niche and other creators that had been successful in the work from home space, which is what my niche is. So whatever your niche is fitness, health, well, whatever it is, you research what other people have done to be successful. All right, we're all copycats out here living life. That's what it is. They have been successful doing this. So then you do what they're doing with your personal spin on it. And you actually talk in your videos. People want to hear your voice. They want to know that you're a real person that you know what you sound like, because it makes them trust. It puts a trust factor there. 

David:  Especially when nobody else is talking. Right? I mean, yes. Beautiful thing is you don't have to there's so many different ways and examples. And there's every single day just on this show. And in our training, we're given examples of people who are building tick tock accounts without talking

And these people are also succeeding by talking in their videos. It's not a one. It's not this is not a thing if it was then 8 billion people on this planet would be doing this very thing. Why? Because it's awesome. It's profitable. And quite frankly, I know I'm thrown around the E word. So brace yourself. It's easier than other stuff. It's not easy. It's easier. They're sourcing products from halfway around the world or selling something that you know is shit, some lotion, potion or pill or chasing somebody that doesn't want to. It's just better you're putting value and going fishing. And people are saying I like that you know and then we bring them in the bow and actually we don't hurt them or kill them. We actually give them value and say or you can just go right back. You don't have to stay in the boat with me. You can just go right back out. It's the most beautiful catch and release program that I've discovered. And, and we still, you know, we still try to find that cookie cutter process. What is the exact thing that everybody's doing? So you said people wanted to hear your voice? Why do you think what are some examples of how you became how you began to introduce your actual voice in your own words in your videos?

Ebony: I literally made a video introducing myself pinned on my TikTok. I literally made a video saying do affiliate marketing and then I put a few facts about myself on the screen. I did speak in the very beginning and then I went quiet and just let them read the facts about me. People want to know about you. You don't give them your birthday and your social September. But they want to know some fun facts about you. They want to know that you're a real person and that you're not some superstar on the internet because of course if you're a superstar you're gonna be successful. No, everybody that has gotten somewhere in life is because they have the willpower to be consistent in what they're even when they are not seeing the results. And it's funny that you said this is easy. It's funny you said that because I literally told my husband. This is the simplest thing I have ever done online. I've done a few things. I've done affiliate marketing before, and it was so hard, but I had no training. So that's why it was so hard for me. I've done dropshipping before it was stressful. It wasn't necessarily hard. But it was stressful. What I love is you put in that work. You get your funnel set up, you take the training, you get your funnel set up, then you start recording videos. You start recording videos, you get that free traffic. I've never done paid traffic for what I'm doing now. 

David: People are sleepy, sleepy, sleepy. Sleepy drool on the pillows. As DJ Khaled Said drools. Socially we play and we are very sleepy right now. And there's a lot of craziness going on in this world folks. You know, I know what is going to you know, be that thing that you're going to say to yourself or that you know, moments of clarity, that anger or that moment of, you know, why don't know what it will be full of. And it doesn't have to look the same as anybody else's. But if you want a different circumstance in a different work environment, you want to go in a different direction and you're sitting on the sidelines.

I noticed something when you came up on this first thing today you said you know I looked for two months. i i What do you wouldn't know I think a lot of people also do that but never come back, you know, and that's a huge missed opportunity. What do you think? What do you think? What do you think people need to know or or that you know that you could share with them? That would help to, you know, make a decision faster? Because I think one of the biggest challenges that we have in life is we procrastinate not on the act, but just on the making of the decision. We made the decision. It's difficult to act you know, and what, what, you know what finally clicked in you or what was it that you saw or said to yourself felt or thought that at the end of that two months when you were just either? Sure, I don't know, whatever you were thinking about it? What was it that you thought or experience that made you stay? 

Ebony: It was one of those things where I don't know if I would disappear again. Now not a lot of people have done marketing online. So if you haven't done it online, then you're scared of what it is. Fear is what's holding you back. Fear of the unknown. Fear of being embarrassed about videos. I don't know what to say. I don't have a following. Everybody starts at zero. Anything that someone has implemented is because they learned it and they put it into action. So when I took the training or before I did this, I say and I kept seeing people that were successful in this. And it wasn't just young people, just older people. It was a mix of people, all ages and the years.

Oh, I watched a video with a guy who was 80 years old all y'all and I could not believe it. And he's successful with this. So never tell yourself I'm never gonna be there. I don't know what to do. What if this happens? Don't put that fear on yourself because you're putting that fear on yourself. You're projecting that fear onto yourself. The only thing you need to do is trade, then take action. Put what you have learned into practice and be consistent. Consistency is the main thing you get the knowledge you can take action, then you be consistent. That is all abilities.

Everybody's like there's you're doing something that you're just not telling us. No, I'm not. I've been consistent. That is the only thing I have done. I have been consistent. I do my research. I do it inside the plant or whatever. I researched what has been successful. Yeah, create a piece of content. Similar. I switched it up. We're not gonna plagiarize anybody. I switched it up, put my spin on it and kept doing that. Over and over and over again and I promise you, one of them goes hit and when it hits you go feel so good that you took a chance on yourself and that you stay consistent is all going to be worth it. But you just keep going. You keep going. You will keep going every day or you will be fired and you will make no money. What about a guy?

David: What about a guy like Joe Rodriguez? I mean, feel let's feel this guy's pain that his wife hates and I'm still trying to earn a living online. She doesn't believe in it. I'm afraid of her and losing her if this thing doesn't work out. Finally, because over the last several years, I've tried every shiny object that came through my inbox and gone broke in the process. Let's leave this guy real quick. He says can you give a quick explanation of how you do your research? No, we can't because we need to back up real quick, Joe. Here's the there's a lot of people who have this issue. It's not just you in the problem, it is not that you need to figure out right now how to do research.

You need to unlearn some things. And the first thing that you need to unlearn is whatever you this kind of jumping on anything that comes in your inbox as long as you do that and as long as you're always have one foot in one foot out, always thinking the grass is greener on the other side but always get in there and it's always artificial turf. And it was always just as good where you are and where you are now but you always want to keep moving to a different place because you just can't sit still and go through the discomfort and the uncomfortability of that valley of desert that for a third of 45 to 60 I don't give a shit if it's 365 days. Sit in that son of a bitch man. Ride that Bronco and you know what, when you right through it it doesn't matter what your wife says doesn't matter what anybody else says cuz you know where you're going brother.

And so look, it's not about whether you can be successful with anything that you do. If you have the attitude and you have the determination and you have the focus. And that's really a big difference than wanting something or how to focus in discipline. It's just about getting up and making our bed in making sure that our clothes are put away in their iron with extra starch. You know, a lot of us come from institutions where we think that discipline is about getting up on time and it's not, it's about learning how to manage our emotions. It's about learning how to develop new coping mechanisms. Right? Instead of every little bit uncomfortable in my business I run I need to find a different coping mechanism. Or every time there's some uncomfortability back to the inbox and guess what other things start looking attractive to me. That's I kind of have that area. I got it as a man. I got to stop talking and thinking that discipline exists on the external. We've all got big muscles, and I go to the gym every day, bro. Happy because I think that all the discipline and the focus because as a man I put all my focus on the external.

Not on the internal, especially not on my emotions because men don't feel right wrong. That's what is holding most of us back is not you need to learn any more. Right now, you need to get right with you and really make a decision about who you're doing it for and also really get clear about what it's going to take and it has nothing to do with anything external or outside of you, including ourselves. You know, I used to think that my wife didn't support me when really I just wasn't didn't know how to support her.

Right and in turn, and in turn. She felt like she was selfish. So son of a gun who always just wanted her to support me and I never asked her how she could feel loved and supported. So they're there. This is a mental game. This is an internal game. You win in business, you win on the scoreboard through the winner's mindset and the inner game. And most of us have that just all messed up and manipulated and we've been lied to and it's not our fault in it. Absolutely one. You know, what would you add to that?

Ebony: I believe it is true because that pit of despair when you are trying something new, and it just does not take off right away. And you see other people that have success or not and we got it this month. I was able to quit my job. You cannot go off of what they did. They are not you. You are a unique individual, which is a beautiful thing because you bring something special that they don't have. anybody's gonna know what it is until you put it out there. You continue going through that pit of despair I had to I had to I had been posted when nothing happened and I couldn't get to 1000 like to save my life.

And then it finally happened. It will happen. You have got to be consistent. Are you posting every single day? Are you making content every single day? Are you responding to every single comment? Are you sharing your link? Are you posting on other platforms? What is going to be a consistent, massive action. Yeah, the move to my husband because he was thinking okay, you try some Mills I you know, I put I shall I say look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Prove it to yourself and to anybody else that's looking on. Yeah, massive action. Just keep going. I promise you just keep going. Take a chance. on yourself. In that pit of despair is different for everybody as far as it doesn't span. But you keep going, you implement training because you have to train, get your training implemented. Keep it every single day. That's the part you got to do. Every single day.

David: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is such a common thing. You know, I wonder how they feel to focus more on themselves. I like this. Sarah, I thought you said you did feel concerned but you actually said you don't feel concerned your husband's been on the road for one and a half weeks. At this point. I'm not concerned about his opinion. It will preclude that I am excited about love. You know, we have to really, you know, we have to really ask ourselves at a certain point and I think also at a certain age, what is going to make me happy. So I'm glad that you commented because it really is a wonderful creative outlet.

And what I'd like to do is get creative for a second and go back to our friend Joe Joe. Thanks for commenting and being so honest, buddy, and I hope that words come through as truth to you and not anything other than that. I want to empower you, but I want to be truthful. I want to be honest. I don't want to I don't want to bullshit. I don't want to just answer the questions and make you happy when they're not going to help you when I know what's going to help you. It's kind of like a patient coming into the doctor saying, Well, I have you know, I have I have kidney disease application and the doctors are like okay, there you go. And it's like they got maybe liver cancer or something right? We can't let the patient die. So if you're struggling my friend, let us help you stay in that here's another here's another commitment that I have.

You know, if you're a business blueprints member and this is my service to everybody for free, by the way, this I get on here for five days a week. And then it might be less like it was Friday when I just took off and Matt covered. Thanks, man. But the rest of our focus goes into our business blueprint, you know customers and here's my community. Here is struggling, and their business blueprint customer, you go to those Thursday coaching sessions that we do, we will work with you until you get it, we will work with you until you're sick. You know what if you have worked with others inside of this community and you're a business blueprint member and you and you can prove and show that you've taken direction from others, you can help you personally day that legendary I know. I know that most of us don't exalt when it's most of us in Joe. I want you to take this in the heart right now and don't take it because we take it in the head we get our egos involved.

Take this in the heart rather than complain about the results that we don't get from the work that we don't all do. Okay in some way, shape or form. And the truth of the matter is, is that that's probably one of the one of the one of the biggest things that we can focus on fixing it's sort of like my marriage like I would have been very unhappy if my wife would have left me at several points in our relationship and probably should have because I was I've been in at an idiot many, many times in my life. But I said to myself, I want to do everything I can. I want to do everything I can. So I can say to myself, not my wife. So I can say to myself that I did everything that I can and so you know if that doesn't get me the result and I can complain because at least I did the work. But it's unfair to myself, let alone others who listen to complain about the work I didn't get from the work I do.

I'm coming up to the top of the hour. I want to give you the last word, comment on anything that's been said up until this point or leave us with what your plans are. Envision your future now that just in January you started this which was seven ish months ago. And would you I guess the question would you leave us because this is what's going to help us the most as I was hearing your experience. Would you leave us with some sort of a description of how if you could describe where your life is now compared to where you were in terms of not only financially but also like clarity and happiness. And you know stress levels and so forth. Could you talk to us and summarize the difference now and then.

Ebony: So I lost my job. I have waited tables off and on for 12 years. And I was waiting tables and COVID here. I lost my job. And so I needed a job. I needed calm. I was desperate to need an income but I did want to stay home so I did this to allow me to stay home. Now remember we talked about the pit of despair. I needed a job, I needed the income but I wasn't getting any results. So I looked at what I was doing and changed it. Then the results started to come, still a little small trickling in. But then more and more I reached out to different groups to create a new and I went to start blowing up his wrist. That opened the way because I took this training and it opened the way to get in the creative fun in Pinterest. So not only is she getting just paid to just repost the videos that are already posted on another platform.

Then Facebook invites me to do their real bonus program. So this open door that had opened the door for other streams of income to come in just doing exactly what I was already doing. None of that would have happened if I had stopped in his spare hours. But I said they're successful with this. He's been doing great at this. She's doing great at this. I can do this. I will do this. I have to. I wouldn't allow myself to give up on myself to give up and I'm a shiny object person too. When it comes to income. I'll see something like Oh, I could probably now I'm already invested in this. I'm doing this stock. And I've continued to put it all in this. That's what happened seven months later. I'm making an income. I got student loans to pay off. Hey, that's one of my wives to help my husband pay off student loan debt. And to continue doing this. I'm trying to ride this until I'm 80 years old. I'm back out here.

Ebony: Be consistent. The consistency. I promise you. That is the five put that fire in your consistency. You do that for yourself. Do that for yourself. You just watch and see what's going to happen if you do. That is, it is a real real pleasure and a lot of fun to talk to you. I'm glad we got our tech issues sorted out. Yes. And I was able to give a couple of good clips. You ever dealing with your technical issues worked out really really well and just another I was having lots of flashbacks to our previous conversation especially with we want people to really kind of talk about getting a lot of results from Pinterest here in the community.

You know it's it's just a platform that people have have slept on and what I love about what you're doing you've got this one thing and you're going all in on Pinterest I mean you're still creating multiple streams of traffic and I love that you talked about creating multiple streams of income and having to create tons of new businesses to create those multiple streams. That is not what the road to prosperity is, that multiple streams of endless same business is the if you want to know the secret to you know, I'd say riches and happiness like my definition is multiple streams of traffic and monitoring. Income income, the same business is like an octopus, you can cut off one tentacle, but the business still continues to thrive because number one, the CEO is not exhausted by all the differences. You as the CEO of your business have to be rested, need to have time to think, and you need to have time to be creative.

David: We overlook just our mental health and our state of being. It takes multiple businesses, but what you laid out with multiple streams of income from the same number of streams of traffic you will be doing this till you're 80 and beyond because it's a new up Guess what? It's not a shiny object. Let's go No it's it's just another stream of traffic and I'm likely going to simply repost what I'm already creating on that. And try to make it native to that platform. And guess what? That's that it you know, so gosh, it's so you made it so clear. You made it so simple. You made it. You just brought it, thank you for your time. Really?

Ebony: Thank you for having me.

David: All right. Ebony, will talk to you later for a third time hopefully. Alright, well go find Ebony I had her handle up for the majority of the show. That was a good show. I mean, social shows. And one last thing that I wanted to leave everybody with was Joe, I hope you're still on. I hope you're seeing it. Because wow, I just had a vision of your dopamine. And, man, you know, I was on the brink of divorce. My wife was on the verge of leaving me. I would have left me if I was her long. And I tried everything. I tried so many different things. I tried MLM. I tried, you know, drop shipping ecommerce. Every shiny object under the sun, something would put an email box. I would click it and think this is finally the answer.

But guess what? Everything I thought was beautiful green pastures. The grass was greener on the other side. And guess what? It was always just an artifact. And it was no better than where I came from until I finally finally discovered the secret and you know what it was me the whole time. And it's also inside the video on the next new entry level. I'm going to deliver it right to your inbox in YouTube ad right on me Come on people. It's a beautiful beautiful thing right now and today my lesson for life is different. I'm rich. Am I traveling around the world in private jets?

I have a Lamborghini to show you know, but you know what I can tell you about but you'll never see as he says I have inside of my head in my heart because I have a business that I know no matter what the economy is doing. Recessions bear the bull market. And I have a strategy that can provide for me, and it could provide for my family because I simply took the time to learn how to do it. And I want to learn how to do it. So enter your email on this page. And I'll see you on the next page. Come on, Joe. Let's go brother. Let's go man. In all of you that feeling or relating to Joe. Go, okay, we believe in you.

Even if you're having a hard time believing in yourself and don't quit before the miracle happens. That's what they told me when I was simply trying to get clean. Right? And in a lot of ways it's like that, because we're trying to unlearn and detoxify from a lot of the old limiting beliefs in bugaboos in the time we've learned from other people, so don't give the legendary we'll see you on Monday for another episode.

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